Richard Cloutier: Yakkity Yak, Don't Trade That

Richard Cloutier: Yakkity Yak, Don't Trade That
- Maxbone

I thought you drank milk?
Myers for the first pick.

I thought you drank milk?
Myers for the first pick.
- homiedclown

myers is solid but, nah

myers is solid but, nah
- hoasis

It is hard to say no to Myers. Yakupov is the kind of guy who will win a scoring championship. Myers, on the other hand, can help a team win a Stanley Cup.
I suspect I would hang on to Yakupov if the offer was made. But, I would think hard about it and might suggest alternative deals to try and swing a Myers trade.

Here ya go Richard. Not my best photoshop ever, but for 5 minutes it'll work.

It is hard to say no to Myers. Yakupov is the kind of guy who will win a scoring championship. Myers, on the other hand, can help a team win a Stanley Cup.
I suspect I would hang on to Yakupov if the offer was made. But, I would think hard about it and might suggest alternative deals to try and swing a Myers trade.
- spatso

agree the oil need someone like him but i still dont think buff would offer their only stud d. not very often are franchise d moved.

Here ya go Richard. Not my best photoshop ever, but for 5 minutes it'll work.


- StayTunedMTC

Well, I LOL'ed. For a few minutes at least. Thanks.

Well, I LOL'ed. For a few minutes at least. Thanks.
- Maxbone

Richard Cloutier: Yakkity Yak, Don't Trade That
- Maxbone

if i am edmonton i try to hold a team like the habs ransom offer first for somone like weber or diaz who both can play pp now and a beaulieu or tinordi plus their first rounder (which you will get a solid defenseman). that gives you 3 defensemen for your 1st rounder who will no doubt be a great player but keeping him on a team where you have a glut of good young forwards will cause cap problems in a few years. this is only my opinion and i am there are other scenarios in the top 5 however i am not as familiar with other systems.

if i am edmonton i try to hold a team like the habs ransom offer first for somone like weber or diaz who both can play pp now and a beaulieu or tinordi plus their first rounder (which you will get a solid defenseman). that gives you 3 defensemen for your 1st rounder who will no doubt be a great player but keeping him on a team where you have a glut of good young forwards will cause cap problems in a few years. this is only my opinion and i am there are other scenarios in the top 5 however i am not as familiar with other systems.
- keithboykid

Not many teams can offer up the kind of package that would get Edmonton's attention in a possible deal for Yakupov. In the case of Montreal, Cary Price would have to be part of the offer or they might try the #3 plus Subban. As stated earlier Buffalo would need to include Myers. Ottawa would have to give up Karllson. Boston would have to give up Hamilton plus another top skater. The Leafs simply don't have a key piece in terms a player. They would need to give up the #5 as well as Gardiner and another skater. You can go through each Division and the problem is the same. If you do this kind of deal fans on both sides will likely hate it.

Big deals are very hard to do. I don't see many possibilities that work unless a very high end player is included.

if i am edmonton i try to hold a team like the habs ransom offer first for somone like weber or diaz who both can play pp now and a beaulieu or tinordi plus their first rounder (which you will get a solid defenseman). that gives you 3 defensemen for your 1st rounder who will no doubt be a great player but keeping him on a team where you have a glut of good young forwards will cause cap problems in a few years. this is only my opinion and i am there are other scenarios in the top 5 however i am not as familiar with other systems.
- keithboykid

We have a whole slough of mid-high-end defensive prospects coming out of the pipeline in 2-3 years. We don't need quantity of defenders, we need quality. Only thing the Habs have I want is Price (I'd make that deal straight up and there would be tears and recriminations in Quebec) or Subban+.
Price is the only keeper I'd move it for. Well, Quick as well I guess, but we all know those guys ain't goin nowhere. Who else would I move it for? OEL, Karlsson, Doughty... guys so obviously integral to their team's success that no competent GM would ever move them.

Richard Cloutier: Yakkity Yak, Don't Trade That
- Maxbone

Did anyone watch the interviews over on the Oilers site with Stu and Steve? I may be projecting my will into the answers but I think I got the impression that they won't take a D-Man at #1. I guess it was just a sublte thing or two that they both said in seperate interviews that makes me think this way. Here's hoping I'm right!!!!.........Thoughts, if you saw the interviews?

I still say they trade down and take Murray or Dumba.

I know a lot of Oil fans are hanging on the hopes of Bobby Mac's quotes of the Oilers being seriously interested but all signs point to Schultz already making his mind up to where he is going and is just biding his time.

Some (all) teams would be desperate to have a forward like Yakupov, especially in the top 5 and this is chance for the Oilers to kick the rebuild into high gear and acquire some assets to push it that much further along.

I know its tempting to take him because he is can't miss prospect but here is chance to take advantage of teams looking for that ellusive top line scorer.

Did anyone watch the interviews over on the Oilers site with Stu and Steve? I may be projecting my will into the answers but I think I got the impression that they won't take a D-Man at #1. I guess it was just a sublte thing or two that they both said in seperate interviews that makes me think this way. Here's hoping I'm right!!!!.........Thoughts, if you saw the interviews?
- OilCountryEast

Da Doi.

Its been crystal clear for the entire year Yakupov is going first...


Murray could possibly slide as low as 4th.

I still say they trade down and take Murray or Dumba.

I know a lot of Oil fans are hanging on the hopes of Bobby Mac's quotes of the Oilers being seriously interested but all signs point to Schultz already making his mind up to where he is going and is just biding his time.

Some (all) teams would be desperate to have a forward like Yakupov, especially in the top 5 and this is chance for the Oilers to kick the rebuild into high gear and acquire some assets to push it that much further along.

I know its tempting to take him because he is can't miss prospect but here is chance to take advantage of teams looking for that ellusive top line scorer.
- Trejetta

90% of the time, the team that gets the best player wins the trade. Teams that move one elite talent for several pretty good talents don't win Cups. I'm not saying don't swap the pick, I'm saying don't swap the greater asset for two or three lesser assets.

Da Doi.

Its been crystal clear for the entire year Yakupov is going first...


Murray could possibly slide as low as 4th.
- Pilgor09

I don't think "crystal clear". They've been doing a misdirection thingy for some time now to keep everyone in a state of uncertainty.

I thought you drank milk?
Myers for the first pick.
- homiedclown

It would be tough to say no. In the playoffs, that is where you will see the value of Myers in the future.

Gawd, when will they ever get some decent bloggers on this site.

I guess that's an oxymoron....decent bloggers.

90% of the time, the team that gets the best player wins the trade. Teams that move one elite talent for several pretty good talents don't win Cups. I'm not saying don't swap the pick, I'm saying don't swap the greater asset for two or three lesser assets.
- thefullnelson

Edmonton is not a big draw for FA's, lets face it. The weather is poop for 85% of the year and its not the most exciting city in the world. I love it here myself, but if I was a millionare I would be picking a better destination for me and my family.

You're best scenario to get talent to fill major holes in your line up is through the draft or trades and he is a chance to trade something that you have an abundance of already (scoring) for something you are sorely lacking (defense) with the addition of adding more talent to your roster.

Murray is going to be a number 1 dman in this league and is has been suggested to be the one guy in this draft who is capable of making the jump to the NHL right away and we all know poor Whitney needs some help back there.

You have Klefbom and Marincin coming through the system but those guys are a few years away from making any kind of impact to the lineup while Murray can step in right away and provide some stability and scoring from the blueline.

For example, the Islanders would kill to bring in a name like Yakupov along with JT. Take the 4th (Murray), Strome or Niederreiter. Two really good assets for one great asset.

MacGregor and Tambylinna both scare me in their interviews..

-for some reason they(and everyone else on the planet except for me) seem to think the oilers offence is set..its great..its dynasty material..
I disagree, who do the oilers have here long term in the top six?
Hall-check
Hopkins-check
Eberle-check
Gagner-half check
The rest are either holes or question marks..
Paajarvi-maybe, Horcoff-no, Hemsky-too injured too often, Hartakainen-maybe, Lander-likley btm 9
Rieder-one day..maybe, Pelss-maybe maybe, probably not, Smyth-not longterm..

So three guarantees..lots of defensive prospects on the way..

By the way, they said that theres other players coming to edmonton as well after yakupov, and theyre visiting a few.

The way I see it is Yakupov is head and shoulders above the rest, 105 points a year ago..a year earlier than Hall and RNH surpassed 100 point seasons in junior..this year injuries slowed him down but his PPG improved, probably wouldve had around 112 points.
Murrays numbers in Junior arent close to what Drew Doughtys were, all the other dmen in the draft are question marks..
coukd be better, but not much to show..Yakupov has shown by far the most that he can be an elite player in this league.

Richard Cloutier: Yakkity Yak, Don't Trade That
- Maxbone

Tambs and Lowe are dumb but not that dumb...

(frank)ing tamballini is just acting like he's got a hard decision on who to pick first overall when really its about as easy as a decision you can make. And what's the point of trading yak (who will make more of an impact right now than Murray anyways) when we can just wait a year or 2 to let our d prospects develop.

And this idea of us moving down and getting multiple assets is ridiculous. Not only should we not do it but why would a team like Montreal or nyi give us the moon when they can just give up nothing and just pick a very good player (or maybe elite player, who knows look at Jeff skinner)

I know it's all fun and games to say we should trade the pick for this person or that person but we all know, and so does the whole oilers organization, that were not trading the pick AND were drafting nail. I'm hoping as well that Samuelson or Subban are available with our 2nd rounder.

And just one question, we get to pick 31st if new jersey forfeits their pick right?

Not many teams can offer up the kind of package that would get Edmonton's attention in a possible deal for Yakupov. In the case of Montreal, Cary Price would have to be part of the offer or they might try the #3 plus Subban. As stated earlier Buffalo would need to include Myers. Ottawa would have to give up Karllson. Boston would have to give up Hamilton plus another top skater. The Leafs simply don't have a key piece in terms a player. They would need to give up the #5 as well as Gardiner and another skater. You can go through each Division and the problem is the same. If you do this kind of deal fans on both sides will likely hate it.

Big deals are very hard to do. I don't see many possibilities that work unless a very high end player is included.
- spatso

That is how you know it is probably fairly even.

I don't think "crystal clear". They've been doing a misdirection thingy for some time now to keep everyone in a state of uncertainty.
- OilCountryEast

A misdirection thingy?

(frank)ing tamballini is just acting like he's got a hard decision on who to pick first overall when really its about as easy as a decision you can make. And what's the point of trading yak (who will make more of an impact right now than Murray anyways) when we can just wait a year or 2 to let our d prospects develop.

And this idea of us moving down and getting multiple assets is ridiculous. Not only should we not do it but why would a team like Montreal or nyi give us the moon when they can just give up nothing and just pick a very good player (or maybe elite player, who knows look at Jeff skinner)

I know it's all fun and games to say we should trade the pick for this person or that person but we all know, and so does the whole oilers organization, that were not trading the pick AND were drafting nail. I'm hoping as well that Samuelson or Subban are available with our 2nd rounder.

And just one question, we get to pick 31st if new jersey forfeits their pick right?
- howamidointhis[/quote]


Correct. They can forfeit this year's pick...2013...OR...2014